On today’s Fox Sunday show, Brit Hume had some sound advice for Tiger Woods. He said Tiger needs to turn over to the Christian faith for the redemption and forgiveness that can really only be found within that faith. I know this will stir a lot of emotions, but what Hume said is jam-packed with truth.
Brit Hume said that Tiger would return to golf, and I’ll add most likely return to the endorsement world, but the real question remains, will he be able to recover the really important things he’s lost?
The only true forgiveness comes through faith in Christ and the redemption found therein. With no disrespect intended towards Tigers current faith of choice or even his lack of faith, but does he want full forgiveness and true redemption?
Not just the forgiveness that he’ll almost certainly receive in the golfing and sports world.
H/T: Townhall
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
300 million to 1 billion people around the planet are Buddhists, a faith which also values compassion and all that compassion means, including forgiveness. To claim Christianity, or any religion, is the only -true- source of redemption and compassion, frankly, makes the claimer look like a moron. Especially when the morons making the claims have done zero research, have zero experience with other religions and have zero capacity for tolerance.
January 3rd, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Thank you Brit Hume for not being ashamed about your Faith! In a day and age when every type of homosexual is out there with all their intimate details and liberals attacks any freedom of religion, why can’t the Christian community express their love? I do think Tiger has had an awful year and frankly he does need some honest and direct talk. He clearly needs a little direction in the mess of his life. Christianity offers so much that a man like Tiger needs. I do hope he is able to find Redemption. God bless.
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
You sanctimonious christians make me want to vomit.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:41 am
J, he didn’t say Buddhism was lacking compassion. And I wonder, would you say the same if Brit Hume had said that Tiger’s Christian faith lacked the redemption and forgiveness that he needed; therefore he needed to convert to Buddhism?
I doubt he would be receiving very much criticism at all.
January 4th, 2010 at 4:43 am
Robert what I asked J applies to you as well. Have you ever uttered the words “You sanctimonious Buddhists or Muslims?” I highly doubt that as well.
January 4th, 2010 at 8:39 am
Actually, I would.
I’m not a sightless, deaf and fanatical defender of any faith. My problem with Hume’s statement is not that it decries Buddhism but that it dares to elevate Christianity above all others, which is and has always been a source of conflict for us as a species. A source of conflict which has brought about much suffering and death to men of all races. The declaration of the, “only true faith,” or, “the only true source of redemption,” not only angers those of other faiths but rallies the fanatics of whatever religion the declaration is made about.
When you muster your troops for war with statements of the absolute and the intolerant, be prepared, always, for bloodshed, as has always been the folly of Man.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:50 am
No I never have uttered those words, principally because the buddhists or the jews don’t evangelize and the muslims tend to take converts at the point of a sword.
The idea that my god is bigger or tougher than your god is so puerile and juvenile. Also the idea that I have the “right” spiritual belief system and that you should think like I do. The audacity of some christians, the only biped on the planet with all the answers.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
J,
Jesus said that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Light and that no one could come to the Father but through Him.
No other “religious figure” can say this. Buddhism cannot guarantee Heaven. Islam surely cannot guarantee Heaven. Such and so on. Only Christianity, more specifically, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, can guarantee Heaven.
Jesus is the Real Deal. Since this is the case, it stands to reason that all other religions and false gods must bow to Him. If I wrote a blistering essay on the power of Buddhism and such, no one would care. However, if I even whisper the name of Jesus in public, I am attacked for “seeking to force my religion” down someone’s throat, and I’m a hate-monger and bigot towards other viable religions. Interesting, isn’t it? His is the Name above all names.
Your being offended at what Hume said only shows that Jesus is Who He said He is.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Robert,
You said: “The audacity of some christians, the only biped on the planet with all the answers.”
But Jesus IS the answer to any of your problems. Seriously. And I’m not talking about “Church Jesus”, but the really real, one-on-one Jesus. Have you ever asked Him what He is really all about, apart from what “christians” may tell you? Have you ever stopped criticizing “christians” and simply gone to the source of Christianity and asked Him any questions?
He’s never ever lied to me before and He has always been available to talk. Just a suggestion, Robert. I’d hate to think you had it in for Jesus based on the actions of “christians”. I know how you feel. Been there, done that. Things are different now, for me. Jesus is God and I am not. He is right and I was wrong. Never mind what even I would say about Him, Robert. Just ask Him yourself.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Uh Donald, next time you set down with the almighty for a little heart to heart and a cup of coffee, you might consider checking yourself into a mental hospital as well.
I am not going to discuss your personal mythology, you could pray to the trix rabbit for all I care. My problem isn’t with Jesus, it is really with you and your ilk. You’ve got the answer, you have been saved and you people make life miserable for all those unfortunate souls who never got the “call to the post.”
Christians have left a trail of pain behind them for two thousand years, as have most other belief systems. Read about the Inquisition, the pogroms, the massacre of jews in england in the 12th century, the crusades, the doling out of smallpox infected blankets to the american indians.
By their actions shall we know them…
January 4th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Robert did you ever stop to think about your last statement? Jesus said “you shall know them by their fruits.” Meaning you will know definitely who is and who isn’t a true follower of Christ by their actions.
Perhaps in some of the examples you gave of “Christian atrocities” those folks weren’t really Christians.
Just because someone says they are, doesn’t mean they are. You shouldn’t pass judgment on Donald, Me or any other Christian based on what you “think” a Christian is.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Robert,
Indeed I shall do just that. But not over coffee, as I have never developed a taste for it.
And if you don’t care Who I pray to, why even respond? Did I say you were a helpless sinner who is going to Hell? Did I attack you and say you were a heathen who deserves Hellfire? Not at all, Robert.
I merely, and politely I might add, suggested that you eschew your distaste for “christians” and go to the One on Whom Christianity is founded. If Jesus is a myth, what’s the danger in asking Him any questions?
Like I said, I’d hate to see you be anti-Jesus based on the actions of His “followers”, including myself. I’m NOT Jesus. I’m just a disciple, a servant, a follower and mathetes. I’m NOT Jesus, Robert. Only Jesus is Jesus.
Maybe this would help:
http://donaldborschjr.blogspot.com/2009/12/jesus-and-me-truth-about-who-i-am-in.html
It’s asking a lot, especially since you and I are complete and total strangers, beholden to neither, but if you could, please follow this link and see my take, if you will, on Jesus.
My email is open to you as well, Robert, if you wish to debate, yell, scream, or simply talk as men. It would be my pleasure.
January 4th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Shannon,
Well said, my brother from another mother! Word!
January 4th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
OK, Shannon, I’ll bite. The people that perpetrated the aforementioned evils weren’t ” real” christians. We don’t have to go back to Galileo to mine examples of christian intolerance. Unfortunately even in the last 100 years, there have been a surfeit of abuses and the church (a church, any church) has found itself on the wrong side of many human issues. With a few notable exceptions, people like Dorothy Day, who fought for the poor, or MLK who worked for human and civil rights, christians have tended to take a safe conservative stance that merely reinforces the institutionalized status quo. I find myself on the opposite side of most christians on practically every issue.
Instead we had a Pope Pious who turned a blind eye to the holocaust, a conservative christian population in this country that opposed desegregation on biblical grounds ( children of Ham, you know). Fought women’s rights (wouldn’t it be better if they just raised kids at home?) We saw evangelical strongmen murderers like Rios Montt who killed and tortured their own populations. Priests in Argentina and Chile who were complicit in executions of teachers, union leaders and leftists. Now we have a new situation occurring in Africa, where American evangelicals have recently convinced the Ugandan government to institute the death penalty for homosexuals.
We also can’t forget opposition to contraception and abortion, reinforcing the notion that we are approaching end times so population control is futile and unnecessary and besides god and his able sidekick jesus have granted man dominion over the plants and the animals. Where have the christians been hiding in regards to protecting the environment?
Now Donald, don’t you worry. I never confused you with Jesus. Sounds like you are confusing you with jesus. You’re the guy in daily communication with him. Tell him that his minions are creating a lot of problems for the rest of us.
http://www.blueheronblast.com/2009/10/jesus-of-acorn.html
You might want to check out my own link for my own thoughts on the subject. Peace out.
January 4th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Robert it seems you have some misplaced anger towards Christians and God in general. So you’re basically saying that Christians are the reason for all the worlds problems? Pretty shallow thinking on your part. Every incident you listed has and had nothing to do with Jesus. Man is the problem, not God.
Abortion isn’t about population control, it’s about not having to deal with the consequences of your actions. It’s about getting rid of a perceived problem. It’s about being able to live any kind of lifestyle you want without repercussions. When you get down to it, just about any kind of “tolerance” issue is about living how you want with no consequences.
And by the way, Jesus isn’t God’s sidekick. He is.
January 4th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
He is what, Shannon? Top Banana? It’s so confusing. Honestly, I have no truck with him either way, it’s you people I can’t stand. The Scott Roeders and Eric Rudolphs and Stevenson Billings of this world. Always ready to play that forgiven card to excuse your shortcomings and ethical failings.
And abortion is nothing if not population control on its face. Usually when a mother feels unable for some reason or another to raise a child.
It is easy for you to excuse the darker consequences of your creed by just saying that the perpetrators aren’t the real christians. Like we need to give them all some liturgical litmus test. I don’t think they are any better or worse than the taliban, you actually have a lot in common. But the moslem kids are willing to die for their prophet. Perhaps if the christian youth would show the same zeal into turning themselves into suicide bombs, we could win this frigging conflict. Guess we just don’t love god enough over here to give tit for tat…
January 5th, 2010 at 10:47 am
It’s been interesting watching this dialogue evolve.I was a devout “born again Christian” for many years and i can say that the points Robert brings up are valid. We are human animals and all have some sort of “spiritual leanings.Christianity is not morally above any other model, but the Carpenter spent his short tenure attacking the politically , greedy,dictates of people that behave the way evangelicals act today. Christians should keep out of politics, put their time into love, tolerance, and humility. and leave all the petty moral worries on the alter. other than that it is no different than Peter cutting off that guys ear. No one has the right to play God, and Christians should keep their mouths shut and respect the divine life of others. if you don’t get it, maybe we should bring back the Lions.
January 5th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Brett, you and Robert seem to be able to tolerate just about anybody BUT Christians. Nobody here ever claimed that Christians were perfect. At least I don’t. As far as Christians keeping out of politics, that’s ridiculous. I think if you have a deeply held belief, whether it be Christian, atheist or Muslim. You have an obligation to enter the political arena in whatever way possible to fight for those beliefs.
To just roll over and allow the rest of the world to dictate the way society functions is in itself immoral. That goes for anyone of any faith.
January 5th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
Congratulations Brett, for throwing off the yoke of early conditioning and brainwashing and becoming a free man. It takes a rare individual to stand tall in the face of so much guilt, intolerance and superstitious mumbo jumbo. But is your ultimate solution really fair to the lions?
I certainly don’t think that Christians are the main problem on the world stage today. Jewish settlers in the west bank that think that God is a real estate agent and that they have the grant deed to greater Samaria are just as noxious.
I have read early travel journals in Asia that show peace loving buddhists skinning unwitting victims alive. Purportedly the tibetan buddhists would seize a comely young lass from a village and pour bronze over her to make a statue to the pantheon. One has to merely look at present day Sri Lanka to see the Hindus square off with the buddhists and commit unspeakable atrocities. Unitarians and Quakers are known to bring soggy doughnuts to church functions.
And those lovable muslims certainly will always take the cake in the “lets kill loads of innocents for our guy” award. As Tom Friedmann once said, “Don’t play crazy with the arabs, they’re far better at it than you are.”
In short, early man may have been standing outside the entrance to his cave, grokking on the beauty of a sunset or a day perhaps that he survived a sabertooth attack, and everything was just so vast and wonderful that he had to invent a creator, cast in his own image, so that his puny mind could comprehend the totality of life. Or find a convenient target to blame. And there are a million stories, and they are all equally absurd and we get to quibble about which one was right.
January 5th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Robert, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. It’s like the Joker said, “This is when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.”
But you are certainly welcome here at this site anytime, and I hope you’ll come back to pick our brains and try and keep us sharp. Maybe we can do the same for you.
January 5th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Shannon, thanks, it was fun.
January 5th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Wow, Robert must have hit a nerve, I know many Christians who are meek and civil, But let’s for the sake of discussion look at the overt lot. What’s not to hate about evangelicals, if you are not one of these don’t take offense.As i mentioned before when one plays God by stepping on the rights of others to live as they will, one is showing a lack of faith. If all of us spent a fraction of the time we argue about religion on doing good humane things we would all be better off.No one knows for sure what’s true and right. But any group that through religion of any kind imposes moral absolutes is missing the point, The number one offender from my experience in the fold are Christian literalists[ which can't agree on one thing amongst themselves] so put your faith where it belongs, quietly to yourself. if i want to know i’ll ask thee. and for God’s sake quit trying to play Tonto to the big Lone Ranger in the sky
January 10th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Robert, Robert, Robert, when I sit down for coffee with you the next time I’m gonna slap the s#!+ out of you. I’m bigger than you and you know I can. Love ya babe.
B
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